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		<title>Comment on john friend on business (in a manduka ad) by Roseanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roseanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi heather ~ thanks for your continued thoughts. there is so much to discuss here; it would make a great blog series!

while i also hope that yoga businesses are operating in line with yogic principles, we can&#039;t assume that they are, just because they&#039;re &quot;yoga.&quot; or because they have slick, conscious marketing. we, the practitioners/consumers, need to ask questions and hold companies accountable. and we also need to reflect on and question our own business practices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi heather ~ thanks for your continued thoughts. there is so much to discuss here; it would make a great blog series!</p>
<p>while i also hope that yoga businesses are operating in line with yogic principles, we can&#8217;t assume that they are, just because they&#8217;re &#8220;yoga.&#8221; or because they have slick, conscious marketing. we, the practitioners/consumers, need to ask questions and hold companies accountable. and we also need to reflect on and question our own business practices.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the future of yoga (according to the huffington post) by Andrea</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen a lot of gyms in the UK adding teachers on their cover lists without ever having looked at them - a phone call or email is sufficient. But on the other hand, should not students be more aware of the risks when choosing a teacher? Even if he/she waves a certain certificate as &quot;proof&quot; doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;re a good teacher. In the old days, none of the Indian gurus could have presented any kind of &quot;certificate&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a lot of gyms in the UK adding teachers on their cover lists without ever having looked at them &#8211; a phone call or email is sufficient. But on the other hand, should not students be more aware of the risks when choosing a teacher? Even if he/she waves a certain certificate as &#8220;proof&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re a good teacher. In the old days, none of the Indian gurus could have presented any kind of &#8220;certificate&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on john friend on business (in a manduka ad) by Heather Bernklau</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather Bernklau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roseanne - sorry my phone won&#039;t let me respond directly for some reason. So great to hear your thoughts as well, it&#039;s definitely a conversation worth having, as independent entrepreneurs (or trying to be, in my case) I think it&#039;s great to discuss with other yoga types how we can be successful and still maintain our ethical values. By talking about it we can help each other find new ways to achieve those goals.

But I wanted to say you&#039;re totally right that there are people that lack the literacy or knowledge or even resources to be able to know when a company is lying/preying through advertising. It&#039;s really unfortunate. Being privy to consumer testing and how it&#039;s conducted (I work in advertising now as a designer...trying to get out as it doesn&#039;t align with my ethics...however I live in NY and my landlord doesn&#039;t give a fuck about ethics, only rent checks...you know the deal I&#039;m sure as a freelance writer hehe) is so disillusioning.

I agree advertising shouldn&#039;t be trusted to be honest 100%, but in this case, and in the yoga business at large, I would like to hope these people are operating in line with yamas and niyamas. But, corruption exists in all fields, so I can&#039;t pretend it doesn&#039;t exist among the yoga business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roseanne &#8211; sorry my phone won&#8217;t let me respond directly for some reason. So great to hear your thoughts as well, it&#8217;s definitely a conversation worth having, as independent entrepreneurs (or trying to be, in my case) I think it&#8217;s great to discuss with other yoga types how we can be successful and still maintain our ethical values. By talking about it we can help each other find new ways to achieve those goals.</p>
<p>But I wanted to say you&#8217;re totally right that there are people that lack the literacy or knowledge or even resources to be able to know when a company is lying/preying through advertising. It&#8217;s really unfortunate. Being privy to consumer testing and how it&#8217;s conducted (I work in advertising now as a designer&#8230;trying to get out as it doesn&#8217;t align with my ethics&#8230;however I live in NY and my landlord doesn&#8217;t give a fuck about ethics, only rent checks&#8230;you know the deal I&#8217;m sure as a freelance writer hehe) is so disillusioning.</p>
<p>I agree advertising shouldn&#8217;t be trusted to be honest 100%, but in this case, and in the yoga business at large, I would like to hope these people are operating in line with yamas and niyamas. But, corruption exists in all fields, so I can&#8217;t pretend it doesn&#8217;t exist among the yoga business.</p>
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		<title>Comment on amy ippolitti leaves anusara, nobody really cares by Lucifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barf!</description>
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		<title>Comment on the science of yoga by william j. broad: the IAYB book review by Rhonda Uretzky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda Uretzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always liked the idea of choice. After 40 years of practicing and teaching yoga I have seen lots of new yoga forms develop out there and choice is wonderful. The problem arises when people claim they have &quot;the real yoga&quot; goods.   We like yoga when it &quot;heals&quot; us: bring in the scientists and prove it! But yoga may just be healing you on many levels - like healing your ego by destroying it. Ouch. 

Yoga is also about a strict student-teacher relationship. We don&#039;t like that part either -  we want to do it our way, teacher be damned! - so we do what we like and blame yoga when we get injured. The core of yoga: be a student. There are yoga classes everywhere so show up and do it THEIR way, and see what yoga has to offer you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked the idea of choice. After 40 years of practicing and teaching yoga I have seen lots of new yoga forms develop out there and choice is wonderful. The problem arises when people claim they have &#8220;the real yoga&#8221; goods.   We like yoga when it &#8220;heals&#8221; us: bring in the scientists and prove it! But yoga may just be healing you on many levels &#8211; like healing your ego by destroying it. Ouch. </p>
<p>Yoga is also about a strict student-teacher relationship. We don&#8217;t like that part either &#8211;  we want to do it our way, teacher be damned! &#8211; so we do what we like and blame yoga when we get injured. The core of yoga: be a student. There are yoga classes everywhere so show up and do it THEIR way, and see what yoga has to offer you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on the future of yoga (according to the huffington post) by Hayley Swinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hayley Swinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Yogatrail to a certain extent. I think it&#039;s great that there are so many diverse styles of Yoga and reasons for practicing; not everyone practices for the same reason, and that&#039;s the way it should be. However, I definitely see what Ira Israel is getting at: asanas are only one part of the whole practice that constitutes Yoga. 

After practicing in Montreal for several months, I drove back to South Carolina and took a couple classes at some studios along the way. In one class I took in Portland, Maine, the instructor led the class like a fitness video, complete with constant joking, counting aloud how long we held our poses, and having us do &#039;reps&#039; of certain poses. There was no talk of centering, breathing, or not pushing your body beyond its limits. And this was at a yoga studio, not a gym offering a yoga class. This guy was certified with the Yoga Alliance. 

To be fair, if that&#039;s what you want to get out of yoga, that&#039;s your business not mine, but what frustrates me is that it is presented as &quot;YOGA&quot;. The students in the class certainly got a good workout, but they left with no more understanding of the basic practices and true meaning behind yogic living than if they&#039;d taken a cycling class at Gold&#039;s Gym.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Yogatrail to a certain extent. I think it&#8217;s great that there are so many diverse styles of Yoga and reasons for practicing; not everyone practices for the same reason, and that&#8217;s the way it should be. However, I definitely see what Ira Israel is getting at: asanas are only one part of the whole practice that constitutes Yoga. </p>
<p>After practicing in Montreal for several months, I drove back to South Carolina and took a couple classes at some studios along the way. In one class I took in Portland, Maine, the instructor led the class like a fitness video, complete with constant joking, counting aloud how long we held our poses, and having us do &#8216;reps&#8217; of certain poses. There was no talk of centering, breathing, or not pushing your body beyond its limits. And this was at a yoga studio, not a gym offering a yoga class. This guy was certified with the Yoga Alliance. </p>
<p>To be fair, if that&#8217;s what you want to get out of yoga, that&#8217;s your business not mine, but what frustrates me is that it is presented as &#8220;YOGA&#8221;. The students in the class certainly got a good workout, but they left with no more understanding of the basic practices and true meaning behind yogic living than if they&#8217;d taken a cycling class at Gold&#8217;s Gym.</p>
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		<title>Comment on john friend on business (in a manduka ad) by Roseanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roseanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 00:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi heather ~ thanks for your enthusiastic comments. it&#039;s fun to see your thought process. 

i definitely agree that advertising in and of itself isn&#039;t bad. i even have advertising on this website – it helps me pay my bills and is compensation for the hours of time that i put into this blog. as a freelancer and a writer, i know that i can&#039;t be naive enough to not think of myself as a business. i&#039;m not anti-business.

but i definitely am skeptical of advertising, and i can&#039;t expect an ad for yoga products to have a very progressive or in-depth view of business practices.

and while i agree that we&#039;re responsible for how we respond to advertising, many people are lacking the media literacy skills to respond in a proactive way. and i do actually believe that advertising &quot;preys&quot; on these people. it&#039;s not random or artistic – the content of mainstream ads is researched and intentional.

lots to think about here. it&#039;s a resonant subject for me, because i&#039;m anti-capitalist and trying to figure out how i can present my work in a business-like fashion, without underselling myself. but while adhering to my ethics and ideals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi heather ~ thanks for your enthusiastic comments. it&#8217;s fun to see your thought process. </p>
<p>i definitely agree that advertising in and of itself isn&#8217;t bad. i even have advertising on this website – it helps me pay my bills and is compensation for the hours of time that i put into this blog. as a freelancer and a writer, i know that i can&#8217;t be naive enough to not think of myself as a business. i&#8217;m not anti-business.</p>
<p>but i definitely am skeptical of advertising, and i can&#8217;t expect an ad for yoga products to have a very progressive or in-depth view of business practices.</p>
<p>and while i agree that we&#8217;re responsible for how we respond to advertising, many people are lacking the media literacy skills to respond in a proactive way. and i do actually believe that advertising &#8220;preys&#8221; on these people. it&#8217;s not random or artistic – the content of mainstream ads is researched and intentional.</p>
<p>lots to think about here. it&#8217;s a resonant subject for me, because i&#8217;m anti-capitalist and trying to figure out how i can present my work in a business-like fashion, without underselling myself. but while adhering to my ethics and ideals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on john friend on business (in a manduka ad) by noetic_heart</title>
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		<dc:creator>noetic_heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A business doesn&#039;t operate in a vacuum, so it&#039;s important to remember the society in which it does operate.  In the USA, it might be possible to be ethical in certain businesses, but it would be difficult, and even more difficult depending on location.  If you&#039;re running the only yoga studio in town, then yeah, you could choose to do it in an ethical manner.  If, however, you&#039;re competing against a ton of other studios in NYC, you&#039;re going to have to adopt a lot of the business practices of your competitors in order to compete with them.  That most likely (in practice, definitely) means that you&#039;re going to have to compromise your ethics.

There is, however, a tremendous amount of literature, political, economic and philosophical, that will tell you that compromising your ethics is actually a very good thing indeed.  It&#039;s the same line of thinking that says sweatshops are good things, because at least the people there aren&#039;t starving.  Never is the question asked why do we set the bar so low, of course.

tldr;  No, in a capitalist system it&#039;s nigh impossible to be ethical in business.  Even Adam Smith knew that, if anyone bothers to read him anymore.  That&#039;s why there have to be very strong laws regulating corporate behavior, which we do not have in the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A business doesn&#8217;t operate in a vacuum, so it&#8217;s important to remember the society in which it does operate.  In the USA, it might be possible to be ethical in certain businesses, but it would be difficult, and even more difficult depending on location.  If you&#8217;re running the only yoga studio in town, then yeah, you could choose to do it in an ethical manner.  If, however, you&#8217;re competing against a ton of other studios in NYC, you&#8217;re going to have to adopt a lot of the business practices of your competitors in order to compete with them.  That most likely (in practice, definitely) means that you&#8217;re going to have to compromise your ethics.</p>
<p>There is, however, a tremendous amount of literature, political, economic and philosophical, that will tell you that compromising your ethics is actually a very good thing indeed.  It&#8217;s the same line of thinking that says sweatshops are good things, because at least the people there aren&#8217;t starving.  Never is the question asked why do we set the bar so low, of course.</p>
<p>tldr;  No, in a capitalist system it&#8217;s nigh impossible to be ethical in business.  Even Adam Smith knew that, if anyone bothers to read him anymore.  That&#8217;s why there have to be very strong laws regulating corporate behavior, which we do not have in the USA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on john friend on business (in a manduka ad) by Roseanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roseanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep, exactly! thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep, exactly! thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on john friend on business (in a manduka ad) by Roseanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roseanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree ~ i&#039;m craving an honest and open and non-defensive/non-prescriptive conversation about yoga/dharma and economics. instead, what we get are personal branding/business building tips, or defenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree ~ i&#8217;m craving an honest and open and non-defensive/non-prescriptive conversation about yoga/dharma and economics. instead, what we get are personal branding/business building tips, or defenses.</p>
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